Cassie's Journey: Fire Life and Sourdough

Navigating Firefighter Family Life: An Interview with Cassie

In this episode of 'Just a Girl and Her Firefighter,' host Kristi Hilmer welcomes fellow firewife Cassie to discuss the unique challenges and joys of being married to a firefighter. Cassie shares her personal journey, from meeting her husband to managing a growing family while he travels out of state for work. The conversation delves into the unpredictable firefighter schedule, celebrating holidays unconventionally, and finding flexibility within family life. Cassie also talks about venturing into a home-based sourdough bread business, offering tips for beginners and insights on balancing business commitments with family responsibilities. The episode wraps up with a fun rapid-fire Q&A and a firefighter trivia segment.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

01:10 Meet Cassie: A Firewife's Perspective

02:45 Navigating Firefighter Schedules

06:03 Raising a Family Amidst Chaos

11:09 Starting a Sourdough Business

17:04 Sourdough Tips and Tricks

19:49 The Importance of Warmth

20:03 Unpredictable Schedules and Holiday Adjustments

23:46 Family Time and Firefighter Life

25:41 Rapid Fire Questions and Trivia

34:33 Sourdough and Shipping Stories

36:26 Conclusion and Community Invitation

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Transcript

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Hello and welcome to just a girl and her firefighter. I'm Kristy Homer, your host. Grab your favorite drink, whether it's coffee, fizz, or maybe something else. And let's dive into the wild, wonderful world of first responder life. We are here to swap stories, share laughs, and tackle those. This really happen moments. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just figuring this all out, this is the place for you. So kick back, get comfy, and let's have some fun.

Audio Only - All Participants: 0:59

Welcome. Thank you for hopping on today. I am thrilled because I just get to meet so many new people from all the different places and it's so fun. So today we are chatting with a fellow firewife, Cassandra. And is that why you go by, or do you have a nickname? Um, I actually go by Cassie. Okay, I was like most Cassandras are like Cassie or something like that. So we have Cassie today. And she has a fun, unique, kind of different perspective because her husband travels out of state as a firefighter. And so I'm really excited to hear kind of how that makes a difference. Family life, she makes the bread, which I'm terrible at. So I'm very excited to hear all about the things, so welcome. And why don't you tell us a little bit about your family, well, thank you so much for having me. Um, so my husband and I met, uh, like December of 2015. And then we started dating a few months later. And then we got engaged a few months after that. You know, when you know, you know, He did. I was 22 just turning 23 when I met him, and he was 26. So Yeah, we just, I don't know. It was just one of those things. That's awesome. A little hallmark story there. That's always been the joke now that it's because we're recording it in Christmas time. This will come out a little bit later. But that's my joke now for everything my husband and I will talk about, like, oh, it's Hallmark. And then I was talking to a friend the other day, and she's like, I had a Lifetime movie life and then it turned into a Hallmark movie life and all the different things, but anyway. Okay, so you met, just knew, got married very quickly, and he was already a firefighter at the time, right? Yes. He was already a firefighter. Um, so I didn't go through fire academies. I didn't go through paramedic school. I didn't go through any of that with him. He was just already a paramedic and a firefighter. And then a few months later, after we were dating, he got annexed. He was a city. He worked for the city and then got annexed by the county. And I bet that was, yeah, a different transition. A little bit. Yeah. Did like shift change or like what, what were kind of the differences? Their schedule changed. So I can't remember what the schedule was like when they were on. I think it was like the The 4896. Okay. That's what we're on. It's my favorite. Really? Yeah. Um, I mean, I liked it at the time from what I remember. And then when he went to the County, it was, I think it's called the Kelly. Is it the one day on one day off? Oh yes. That's my least favorite. It was horrible because he, um, worked at a really busy station. And so when he would get home, it was like, You know, he was tired and he needed to sleep, so I really was just going days without really hanging out with him, like on his days off and, you know, we were newly married and didn't have kids yet, and, um, I really didn't understand the whole, like, They're tired. They were up all night. Like, don't bug him. Kind of like, maybe just let him get some sleep. Right. Yes. Yeah. Like, I don't understand. I think that what was so hard for the Kelly schedule, at least for me, because I've talked to people that like it, but for us, part of it was, it was a busy station. We had three kids under the age of five. So that was its own element. But it was, he was home, but not home. And so mentally it's easier for me if I can't physically see him. And it's like, okay, you're just at the station when you're home, you can be home. So I think that's why I like the 4896 so much. It's because he's just gone and then he comes home, maybe that first half a day he needs some readjustment, um, but it's not this constant, like you're here but you're not here kind of thing. And so I'm not a fan of the Kelly schedule. I was very grateful when the schedule changed. Yes. So is he back to 4896 or do they do like 24s? They call it a modified Kelly. So, and because he commutes, he kind of tweaks his schedule a little bit differently. Um, so if he didn't mess with his schedule and didn't get forced in a perfect world, it would be, um, two on, two off, two on, four off, and then two on, two off, two on, eight off. Okay. To where you get the big chunks. So that probably he can manipulate it to get some decent chunks of time with commuting. Okay. Yes, so what he tries to do is do six days on, six days off. Which seems kind of like a lot, but we really like it. Yeah, absolutely. And then now you have kids, I believe. So fast forward, you're married and now what are the ages of your kids? So we got married and then we had three kids. You know, back to back, um, our oldest is four and then we have a two year old and a one year old. That's awesome. And busy. Very busy. Yes. Are they girls, boys? So the two oldest are boys and then the baby is a girl. Okay. How fun. So what's that like? It's a lot. My house is in chaos all the time. But. Uh, I love it. I love it so much. I grew up as an only child. I do have half of siblings, but I never grew up with them. And I love having a big family. You know, that was one thing when my husband and I did get married. We said, if we have kids, you know, we want to have a big family. Oh, fun. I know we have three kids too, and it's a lot of fun. Like it's hard and it's stressful and it's chaos. But I was thinking the other day, I was like, it's only, I mean, yes, it's chaotic, but it can get worse in my mind. When I try to make the goal peace and quiet, it's like, why do we think like, Oh, my goal is even the week, right? It's like, our goal is to get to the weekend and then we have sports on the weekend and then we can, you know, go back and forth through that. And it's like, how about we just enjoy the sports on the weekend? This is what we've chosen. Hang out with the families. I've been thinking about that a lot of like, why is it that our goal is to. Not be in perpetual motion or not be in chaos Because if that's our goal, we're gonna be so frustrated plus when I do have days of nothing. I don't enjoy them I'm like what this is boring Right. My kids are not in school age yet. My oldest is in preschool and he goes two days a week So we're not in the, we, you know, they're in school and we want to make it to the weekend. We, we just started preschool with our oldest and then he just finished his first soccer season. Oh, fun. We were, we just, you know, are dipping our toes in the school and sports life. Which is a fun. It's fun. Yeah, very full, but it's fun. Yeah None of my kids did soccer. So I have no experience in soccer But I feel like soccer is the most normal sport to start with Yeah. It felt very normal. Um, my son, you know, he wants to do it all. He, he, um, his grandma, so my husband's mom, um, they live in the same town as us. They live like five, 10 minutes away. He was really big on soccer. So, um, my son who absolutely adores her, like I want to play soccer. And then, um, you know, he watched like the baseball games on TV and he's like, I want to play baseball. So he's going to do. And then, um, they have like these electric basic bikes and, um, they're, they want to ride the dirt bikes. They're just not quite tall enough for the fifties. He's like, I'm going to race dirt bikes. Like he, they just want to do it all, especially my oldest. And we're trying to prepare for all of that. And I'm like, how am I going to do all of this? You know, especially when my husband's at work. Yeah, it does get a little tricky. I'm not gonna lie. Um, when, especially when all three of them are then. In a sport, you're like, okay, you, that's where you really learn to build your community. And it's always like every beginning season. I'm like, let me meet the parents who are the couple of families that we love that we can carpool or help out with, or take to games or take to practices and all that different stuff, because with three kids, it is, at least I have not found a way to be in three places at once. If somebody knows how to do that, they should tell me. Yes, that would save me a lot of stress though, but you figure it out. And then it kind of goes back and forth between the guilt of not being there for every single one, or you've been there for your oldest and now you have the third in there. And so it's different and you're going between all the different things, but I look at it and I think it helps one to build their character. And it also shows them how to be sufficient, but then the sacrifice. Part of it, you know, like that's part of being in a big family is you're not always at every single little thing, but I definitely go back and forth of, well, I'm not here for this one. I have to choose which volleyball game to go to, or, you know, all that stuff. So. Well, anyway, moving on from sports because I could talk about that forever because that's where we are in life. Um, how did you get into your business? So you bake, is it bread and bagels or what exactly is it that you do? Yes. Um, I bake sourdough bread. And then I make Greek yogurt bagels. Oh, nice. So then there's the protein. Yes. I have a lot of people ask me, why don't you do sourdough bagels since you make sourdough bread? And the simple answer is I think the Greek yogurt bagels taste better, so I like to make them. Yeah. Well, and I mean, I would think it's more protein than sourdough, right? Uh, yeah, you get, you know, the good gut health stuff from the Greek yogurt. So they're just very light and fluffy and I just, I could talk about bread all day and just nerd out on it. So I won't do that to you. How long have you been baking? I learned how to make sourdough about a year ago. Um, I have a lot of friends that make it and I just, I was like, well, you know, why not give it a shot? Um, I was tired of, you know, we go through so much bread and bagels in our house just in general. And I just thought, why don't I just make it from home? I say that like it's the easiest thing. I know I did a sourdough adventure and we'll talk about that in a second. And I'm not doing sourdough anymore, but continue. And then you turned it into a business. Yeah, so it took me a minute and, you know, to really get the hang of it and, um, along with that process, I was just making a ton of bread and I was making more than, you know, we needed in our house, which was shocking how much bread I was making. So I was just giving it away. I was giving it to family and friends, whoever would take it. And then I had, um, a few family and friends say, Oh, you should sell this. And I said, no, you know, you know, we live in a small town, like everybody sells bread or everybody. You know, hot, you know, sell baked goods like nobody's going to want to buy from me. But, um, I had a really good, like a really good mom friend group, like coordinator, um, this girl in town and she asked if, cause I was kind of selling on my Instagram stories just here and there. Nothing major. She asked if I wanted to be a part of our town's first Friday, uh, at the night market, and she's asked if I wanted to be the featured vendor. So, I said, yeah, sure. And then she kind of really helped me get my foot out there. I mean, I had the support of a lot of family and friends that had been encouraging me to do it. And she, um, was kind of like the one that really shoved me out the door to do it. Right. Like here's your avenue and then you did the rest by baking and all of that. So this, I think we should touch on this subject, one, sourdough, you should give us all your sourdough tips. But two is. Starting a business or doing something when we are married to a first responder and have such an unpredictable schedule, I think oftentimes we can tell ourselves that we're not ready. We can't or we have to always be available because we're kind of that person that's home or present more even if we're working an eight to five job, it's typically us that pick up the kid from school because they really can't leave the fire station. So how was that transition and what would you tell people that are like, I've had this idea and I feel like I can't quite do it because of their schedule or the lifestyle that we have. The way that I did it. Yeah, or kind of what have you seen even benefits of like, This has maybe fulfilled another part that motherhood hasn't or any kind of part of how this has started or developed to give encouragement to other people that maybe are either just building a business or wanting to. So, um, I guess after I had my first child, I became a stay at home mom. He was a COVID baby. So, you know, it wasn't. I didn't go back to work and I'm just going to stay at home mom since then. Um, and I think like just the time management really is what I've struggled with. I still struggle a little bit with it because when my husband is home, I'm like, okay, I want to put everything away. And I'm like, let's just all hang out with dad. Cause he's home. And, since starting this, I have, you know, deadlines that I have to make or that I committed to that. I really need to make sure that I commit to those. And it's really just been about time management. If you can find the time to do it when you want to, if you want to be present with your firefighter, when he's home, then you need to work around his schedule. Right. Structuring your business plan accordingly. Yes, exactly. And on, you know, um, when I do like a first Friday or something, if he is there to help me set up my booth, then like, that's great. But I have to set it up and when he's not there, then I know that it takes me a little bit longer to set up and, uh, I'll, you know, depending if I have a friend there or not with me, then I will Be by myself or have my kids running around, then that's what it is. Absolutely. Yeah. Just flexibility. Yes. Flexibility in this life, hands down, especially then when we've got other responsibilities. So, okay. Well, I know so many people make sourdough bread. I was given a starter. I did not ask for this starter. It was from a friend and she's a fellow fire wife. Our husbands work at the same station and I had been talking about it and she was like, it's not that hard. It's not that hard. You can do it. And she sent me, uh, Marco Polo. She sent me like all the instructions and videos and all the different things, and I named it, Sally. The sourdough, and I think that's what I named it. I killed it, so I could have killed Sally. Um, and it was going well, and then we had a hurricane, and so it was not refrigerated anymore, so I had to keep feeding it, and we had like no power for four days, something like that. So it got, Sally was very large, and there was a lot of sourdough, and I even made cinnamon rolls with it in the barbecue, because I was like, I don't know what to do with all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And now it's just sitting there in my fridge and I need to feed it again. But once you get in the rhythm, it wasn't too terrible. It's just figuring out what the rhythm is. Cause you have to set it for whatever the fancy words are for all of it. Um, but what are your biggest sourdough tips for the people out there that make sourdough and have stuck with it, unlike me? Well, um, you know, feeding it once a day, if you're going to leave it on your counter, make sure you feed it. Um, it's okay if you don't use the discard. Um, I have discard in my fridge. I save it for if I try to make something with it, but if you have to throw it in the trash, a lot of people will be like, don't do that, but it's okay. You can throw some of it in the trash It's just Flo and water. Um, yeah. How long is it good in the fridge? Because mine has been in the fridge for a few months. Can you feed it and like bring it back to life? Yes, I think as long as you, um, have, you know, a lid tight on it. Yes, it's in a lid, in a mason jar. It might take a little while to, like, get it strong and bubbly again, but that's okay. Yeah, maybe I'll try it again. Keep it in a warm bar. I mean, you guys are in a warm area. Yeah. Well, right now, it was 39 degrees today. Like, that's cold here in Texas. That is very cold. But it's supposed to be like, not, not, not 90. What is it supposed to be? I think we are 70. But anyway, we're in like our month or two of cold and then we go back to warm. Yeah. I keep mine on the counter next to my stove and oven. So it gets a little bit warmer. I had a friend say she keeps hers on her window. And she's like, I don't know why it just wasn't rising. And I said, it's too cold right there. You gotta move it. Interesting. A lot of people want it on the window because it looks pretty there. Martin Gauld is tucked by the stove. Because it's warmer. There we go. Yeah. That's a good tip. Okay. Well, now we'll go back to fire. Okay. Got distracted by sourdough. Um. Okay. So over kind of the course of the last few years, you know, being married, you know, New transitions, kids, commuting, all of that. What is something that has surprised you that you're like, I did not know, or even if I was explained this, I didn't understand it until you lived it. The schedule, even after all these years is just so unpredictable. And, um, I think even with the holidays here that, um, you know, you don't have to celebrate the holidays on the actual holiday. It's okay to celebrate it another day. Absolutely. And, um, to not get disappointed by it. I just look at it, you know, there's certain things that, um, that really suck that, you know, that you will miss every once in a while. But, um, things like Christmas or Thanksgiving. Birthdays or whatever they can be celebrated with them at the station or on another day. Absolutely. And that's okay. Absolutely. I remember oftentimes Thanksgiving, we're either at the station or We're celebrating it a different day. And I remember one time we celebrated it before Thanksgiving and we couldn't actually go to the station. I can't remember for whatever reason it was. And like, we went and watched a movie on Thanksgiving or, you know, did a couple of errands. And it was like, this is kind of nice. Like the whole world is baking and stressed all day and we are doing whatever. So just having a different perspective that it's not the date on the calendar that actually matters. It's the traditions that can be on another day. Yeah, my husband, um, was supposed to have Thanksgiving off this year and, um, we were just going to do it, our family at home, which never happens. We normally do like a big Thanksgiving and we'd already gotten the turkey and I'd gotten all the sides and everything. And then, um, he called me, uh, I was on my way to the grocery store to get like a few more things. He called me and was like, I'm so sorry, I got to work Thanksgiving now. And And he was home the day before Thanksgiving, so he was able to grab, you know, the turkey that we already had defrosting in the fridge and all that and bring it to the station. And then we, um, celebrated with some other family and then we went to the station and had Thanksgiving. Nice. Yeah. It's all about kind of that pivot and improv and last minute adjustment. I feel like we get really good at that. In this lifestyle of like, okay, well, that's okay. It sucks for a minute and then we move right along. Yeah. And like, okay, these, these are the circumstances. What can we do with them instead of living in that? Oh my gosh, this sucks. And then having a miserable Thanksgiving. Right. Um, I think definitely having more of a Positive outlook on the whole situation, uh, really helped. Like you just said, like, instead of saying this stuff, this Thanksgiving is ruined, I was looking forward to you being home. Just kind of having a spin on it, like, well, you know, our plans changed and we're going to do the best that we can with it. The kids still have fun. They got to ride their bikes at the station and brought like games and stuff like that for them to play. So they still had a good time and to them, it's kind of normal. So it's okay. Absolutely. I know we had this Thanksgiving, my husband transitioned to a new department. And so he was like, okay, they're all the families are coming for Thanksgiving. And like, that's my jam. Like I usually am the one that's coordinating it, like bringing it, but this is a new station. And so I was like, I don't want to step on any toes or just come like barreling in. And, uh, cause I can be a lot. Sometimes, uh, but he got it confused. They had a family day for like an award ceremony or something the week before. And he had told us we weren't to come to that. So he had like confused them. And so I get a message from him Thanksgiving morning, like, Uh, whoopsie, like no families are actually coming. We're not doing Thanksgiving at the fire station, you know, and I didn't plan anything else for the kids or anything like that. So I was like, okay, well, can we come stop by and say hi? So we still did that. And then we had to pivot, but there were, there's about five minutes where I'm like, this is super sucky. Like we have nowhere to go. We have nothing to do. If I had known we would have done something different, but then like, okay, we're all done. What's the circumstances. So we just had like a picnic on the living room floor and watched Christmas movies and ate snacks. I was like, it's a snack day, kids. And my oldest is almost 14. She's like, yeah, uh huh. Right, mom. But we got to pivot somehow. Gotta change this. Nothing is open. Um, but anyway, yes, like things are going to come up. And sometimes it ends up that those are the most memorable things our kids remember. It's like, do you remember that Thanksgiving or that Christmas we had to do? Or blah, blah, blah. Right. Absolutely. And I'm sure they had a good time. We'll see. I'm sure they did. I mean, it's not every day I let them eat snacks on the couch, you know, so that, uh, that was different. Um, okay. Well, maybe we'll end with this last question and then we're going to do some rapid fire and trivia. We're adding trivia to season two and it's terrifying because I don't know any of them. And I had my husband like list out, I know, I know it's terrible. I I'm like, we really do pay attention to you guys, I promise. Um, so something that we did last season that I loved and I'm hoping to continue into this season is talking about, like, what would you love for the outside world to understand about first responder life? And that can be in any direction you want to take it. Um, something I wish that the outside world maybe Got more is that, um, you know, this is kind of a lifestyle for our families. And, um, we, you know, I love all the friendships that I have in like family relationships to that I have outside of just our immediate family with our firefighter. But, um, Um, sometimes, you know, when he's home, we just want to have family time together, or sometimes it's easier to hang out with another fire family, um, or another fire wife, just because I don't have to go through the explaining everything or they just automatically understand, you know, everything that's going on. Um, which can make things easier for us, and it's not that. You know, um, I'm trying to say, it's not that we, um, don't want the help or the taking the help, you know, has been something that's been hard. But, um, when I have like people that don't know the fire life offer help, it's, it's, uh, sometimes they don't know how to offer help. So sometimes. It could just be, uh, one other firewife texting me at five o'clock saying, Hey, do you have dinner plans? No. You know, the day got ahead of me and she's like, is your husband working? Yeah. Okay. Come over. I order pizza. And it's just, Sometimes it's just easier to do that and you know, yeah, we've had many, many of those nights or it's like, okay, let's get together. And it's like picnic for the kids and we are doing a, like throw together charcuterie or whatever it is, but just having kind of that company and fast, easy. Yeah. That's awesome. That's very cool. Yeah. And that also, my husband does exist. I have like a lot of friendships since moving. I'm sure you do too. Yes. And, um, Like, especially, you know, just with the new friendships, they're like, Oh, like, where's your husband? Like, he's at work. And it's like, Kathy, it's been, you know, a couple years now, are you sure you have a husband? Like, yes. Yes, I am. Sure. The kids look just like him. Yeah. 100%. Absolutely. It's, it's funny how often that comes up. Like, that is something I never would have thought I would have had to explain. And I think it also comes. With in a corporate world, potentially, like if somebody's choosing work over family, it can seem like they're doing that choosing work over family, or they're working 14 hour days to close some deal or whatever it is. But it just so happens that they may catch us on the two 48 hour shifts they have that month, or, you know, where it seems like they're choosing work over family. And it's really not that it's just that their work is 48 hour shifts or whatever it is. So And it just so happens it's scheduled on the days, all the things happen. Yep. Especially with, uh, people, families who get the weekends off, like every single weekend off and they plan things on the weekend. Our husbands are usually working maybe two of those weekends or more, who knows. Yeah, or one half of one of them, or yeah, where it's always like that stretch because ours rotates. And so it'll be like, okay, really for the next six weeks or whatever it is, you're working on a Monday or a Saturday or, you know, just however the rotation works. It seems like there's always a string of them or overtime or any of that stuff. So, okay. Well, that was awesome. And hopefully now we have. Sourdough experts. Okay. After this podcast. Um, I just might start mine again. Anyway, okay. You should. I know, and then the scoring, I can't do that. We were talking about that at Bible Study the other day. Um, cause one gal was super excited. She figured out how to make all the designs and my designs look like a kindergartner has done it. And like half of the bread is this way, like way up high and the other it's terrible. I don't even know. So I have a couple of the rapid fire and then we'll go into trivia. Okay. Would, I guess there were, I don't know what they're called. Maybe this is trivia, but would you rather wear turnout gear? to a date night, or a firehouse t shirt to a wedding? Um, I'd rather wear a firehouse t shirt to a wedding. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if I could do that. I don't know if I could do either one. I feel like No. Yeah. If I wore, like, turnout gear on a date night, I think I would just, it would be so funny. I don't know. Anyway, okay. If I, I don't know that I have an answer for this one either. If firefighters competed in the Olympics, what would their gold medal event be? Oh, um, maybe like throwing a ladder? Right. I don't know. Making a ladder look lighter than it looks? I have no idea. Oh, I asked my husband these the other day. And he was like, pickleball. He's like, all the firefighters play pickleball. I'm like, really? That's a thing? Anyway. Okay, last one and then we'll go to trivia or the other kind of trivia, whatever it's called. What is the weirdest item you have found in his pockets? I wouldn't call it weird, but I do wash a lot of vents. Yes. Yeah. And, uh, loose change or cash, and, um, I've washed AirPods and, uh, Those are always tricky ones. Yeah. That's about it. Nothing too crazy. That's probably a good thing. Because with firefighters, you never know what you're going to find. So those are pretty normal. Yeah. Okay, let's see. We'll start with the easier one. Last time I went hard and went easier, so we'll start with the easier one. What do the different color fire helmets mean? Oh, um, the different linkings. Yes, see, good job. Okay, and then, what are irons? What are irons? Mm hmm. I don't know. I didn't either. I was like, you're speaking another language, honey. Uh, he says, and granted, watch, I'm going to say all these things and people are going to be like, that's not what they are. Flathead axe and a halogen. So I think it's like, if you, I didn't ask him this part, but I'm imagining if they're like, go grab the irons. It's maybe those two tools maybe. I don't know. Oh, maybe. Yeah. That could be wrong. Okay. And then this one, I had zero clue and I thought he was playing a joke on me when he sent this to me. What is a taxpayer? Like a citizen? I know! That's what I thought. Right? I was like, somebody that pays their taxes? No. Yeah. It is a type of structure where a business is on the bottom floor when the living quarters or apartment are on the second floor. Okay. Okay. I'm like, who decided that's called a taxpayer? Like, where did that come from? I have no idea. Me either. So anyway, those are our trivia questions. I'll have to come up with some more because people are going to get tired of them after hearing it a few times. But that's all I got today. So thank you for taking the time and sharing your story and sharing. Just what fire life has been for you guys and all the tips on sourdough, which is all very exciting So which also is a good question. Do you ship your bread? You know, is it just local? It's just local, but I have a lot of friends and family that have asked me to ship I do funny story since you are in Texas. I do have a friend her husband works there Um, for the same county as my husband and they used to work together at the same station. Um, he really wanted to order some bagels and we worked it out to where I made them, sent them with my husband to work and he was, I think he was relieving or he was coming to the station and, um, my friend's husband was leaving the station. He got the bagels, flew home that morning to Texas cause they live in Texas. That's a big commute, Texas to Arizona? Texas to California. Oh yeah, yeah. California. I forgot. That's crazy. It's not a fast flight either. No. Okay, well send them. Yeah, where in Texas? Is she close to Houston? Uh, no. That won't work. I can squeeze it and send it to you. Yeah, I was also thinking like people could like buy them from you and we could give them your information. But unless their husband works in the same department and can find an airplane and deliver them by network. It was a lot of planning. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Well, if anybody ever comes to Houston. You can send them. Send bagels. I will. Awesome.

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